tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post3059973694063138993..comments2023-12-09T02:52:46.504-05:00Comments on Captive Heart: Tears of a Clown…Take Heart!Gay Idlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18153745029545662623noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-80660686078241778692014-08-17T18:23:34.012-04:002014-08-17T18:23:34.012-04:00Thank you! Thank you! Beth Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07047047792782914757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-53429586697792375662014-08-17T18:22:52.274-04:002014-08-17T18:22:52.274-04:00My other thought is that (I know this is not your ...My other thought is that (I know this is not your intent) all the assertions that suicide is always a choice are being seen by the survivors ... not the depressed individual. In a season during which the loved ones need comfort ... they are subjected to the opinions of others that their loved one made a bad choice, sinned, rejected grace, etc. <br /><br />And that I do have personal experience with as a close family member took her own life. Do I think she made a good choice? No. I just don't know if she made a choice. I think she was simply trying to escape the flames!<br /><br />Beth Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07047047792782914757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-26790167896825485192014-08-17T18:14:11.562-04:002014-08-17T18:14:11.562-04:00I don't disagree with you. But in the moment i...I don't disagree with you. But in the moment it can feel more standing in a blazing fire with someone telling you to wait for the coming water. Or drowning and hearing a command to not grab a rope that appears to be the only way out. <br /><br />I KNOW that suicide is wrong. It denies that grace can and will redeem the current painful situation. I have determined to not make that choice and so I reach out when the pain is too much for me. (The preparation that you speak of. ) I just don't think that every broken spirit has loving people surrounding them. Nor do they all know Jesus without whom there is no hope! Beth Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07047047792782914757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-3724157419827400552014-08-17T11:21:54.125-04:002014-08-17T11:21:54.125-04:00Beth, I know it helps to know the truth of God'...Beth, I know it helps to know the truth of God's word, that He will never leave you nor forsake you, when you cannot feel His presence or 'see' Him through the tears and emotional pain. Still, I know, the aching is still there. Please continue to trust, as I know you do, that God is right there with you. He holds your tears in a bottle, that's how precious you are to him! (Psalm 56:8). I wrote this in a post a while back. "Sometimes our story needs to endure the winter…to lie dormant before it is ready to burst forth as the buds in spring."(http://www.gayidle.com/2013/11/hope-awaitsa-story-yet-to-be-unfold.html) I know that you are in the 'winter of your discontent' at the moment…but winter never lasts forever. Spring is coming sweet friend. Just hang on through this winter. Let this be a time to rest, saturate yourself in the Word and let His words minister to your pain. Know that you have so many people who love you and truly do care about you. I am one of them. Hang in there my friend. I know that God is transforming you out of that cocoon into the beautiful butterfly that He meant for you to become all along! Gay Idlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18153745029545662623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-81086690574284488962014-08-17T10:50:17.702-04:002014-08-17T10:50:17.702-04:00Deborah, Thank you for coming by and for your kind...Deborah, Thank you for coming by and for your kind and encouraging words.Gay Idlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18153745029545662623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-73611982114520726592014-08-17T10:48:10.294-04:002014-08-17T10:48:10.294-04:00I believe that if a person begins to 'train...I believe that if a person begins to 'train' their brain to realize that suicide is the wrong choice when they are in earlier stages of depression then even in the most muddled thinking they will be most likely not to make the decision to take their life. I'm not saying that they are clearly thinking when they take their life. It's like emergency preparedness plans…if we treat depression with the respect that is needed…take away the stigmas then people will more likely reach out to get help in the early stages. It is during this time that it is important to train the brain the right and wrong response to despondence. This is not the best analogy, but think of it like earthquake or any other preparedness. You don't wait till the emergency hits and then expect to know what to do…because you will be in panic mode and you won't be thinking clearly. But if you prepare ahead of time then the brain will go into autopilot when you can't think clearly during the emergency and will automatically do what is needed…the fight or flight response has been trained which response is appropriate for that situation. I am not saying in any way…that this is fool proof. But I have known some who came perilously close to taking their lives, choose not to…because something in them just wouldn't let them take that step. Most of the time that something was the fact that they had been taught that God had a better way. Does that all even make sense? I think that it is important to make sure people realize that suicide is never a solution or an escape. When the sanctity of life has lost it's importance in a society, we begin to see more and more suicides. You know that I love you friend and that you have and will continue to be in my prayers. :-)Gay Idlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18153745029545662623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-46365765396113951682014-08-17T01:25:25.061-04:002014-08-17T01:25:25.061-04:00I appreciate what you expressed so well in this po...I appreciate what you expressed so well in this post, Gay. Blessings!Deborah Hathawaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-34661480551205905892014-08-16T19:24:10.571-04:002014-08-16T19:24:10.571-04:00I know, in my head, that when we know Jesus we are...I know, in my head, that when we know Jesus we are never truly alone. My heart has not always been able to acknowledge that truth. Beth Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07047047792782914757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-5444683851735062972014-08-16T19:22:33.158-04:002014-08-16T19:22:33.158-04:00Awesome post reflecting your beautiful heart. The ...Awesome post reflecting your beautiful heart. The only point that I MIGHT disagree with is that there is always a choice. Well not exactly that ... There's always a choice. I'm just not sure if a broken mind and spirit is always able to recognize the options and make the best choice. Suicide isn't necessarily a choice between life and death. It is more of a fight or flight response ... with no strength left to fight! I have come perilously close to that place several times over the past year. Fortunately I have had access to people, with loving hearts, who would stand beside me and hold me up when my strength was gone. Perhaps Robin was truly alone on a particularly dark night of the soul? Beth Zimmermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07047047792782914757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-44162016482625654362014-08-15T11:18:00.395-04:002014-08-15T11:18:00.395-04:00Thank you friend! I'm so glad you stopped by f...Thank you friend! I'm so glad you stopped by for a visit!Gay Idlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18153745029545662623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-22776150549468581372014-08-15T08:36:17.289-04:002014-08-15T08:36:17.289-04:00Beautifully written and filled with hope! Beautifully written and filled with hope! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17158022228416827716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-71392858892335656402014-08-14T18:35:15.675-04:002014-08-14T18:35:15.675-04:00I know that you went through it. I appreciate your...I know that you went through it. I appreciate your commenting and sharing! Such a great verse/promise to cling to when we are in the midst of trials of any kind. I love you, sis!! Gay Idlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18153745029545662623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070901222381406541.post-55285466009293245522014-08-14T18:30:18.460-04:002014-08-14T18:30:18.460-04:00Amen... soon true.. I know before I could Even Beg...Amen... soon true.. I know before I could Even Begin to battle my depression, I had to put my life and mindset in His hands...mind body and soul and strive everyday to stay in perfect balance with Him..i stand on His Word His promises "my go to verse" is 1 Tim 1:7 God has NOT given us a spirit of fear, but a spirit of Power, Love, and a SOUND MINDKathy evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00468262816536422516noreply@blogger.com